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Zarelli reviewed one of my collectors item, and declared it not authentic. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT I HAVE ALL RECEIPTS FROM BUZZ ALDRIN , AND MIKE COLLINS, AND NOVASPACE.

I think it would be better if he would stick to his original, used car salesman job, and not to leave the car lot. When Buzz ALDRIN AND MIKE COLLINS say the signature of Neil Armstrong is real I tend to believe to those guys and not to Zarelli.

Beside they would not put their reputation on line, if they would not be 1000% sure. I have only real deals

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Gordy Pfd

Unfortunately I don't know enough about computers, so i could figure out how to insert a scan, or photo here, but closing my adventure with Mr. Zarelli, I'd like to say that I have in my possession two Certificate of Authenticity, on of them is from NOVASPACE signed by Kim Poor, and the other one is straight from Buzz Aldrin's office, and BOTH AUTHENTICATED a questionable " First on the Moon" book.

I do not believe you can get better provenance, than the American Hero Buzz Aldrin, who was there on July.

20th, 1969, and most respected person Mr. Kim Poor of NOVASPACE (Astronaut Central)

Gordy Pfd

I appreciate everybody's input and comments, about my adventure with PSA/DNA " export" Steve Zarelli.

I would like to re-iterate that I do not have any problem with Mr. Zarelli.

I also realize since I have been living in the US, for 42 years, there is a "sucker is born in every minute". We did not have these "exports 10 years ago. They found the market, and they want to make a dollar. Nothing is wrong with that, the US was built pretty much on the same principle.

The "problem" i have with these "exports" is they are destroying the fun of the collecting. I DO NOT COLLECT FOR PROFIT, I DO IT BECAUSE I LIKE IT. And, furthermore the comment placed by The Rocket Man is 10000% true. The "DISCLAIMER" on the bottom of the Export Opinion says it all.

Basically they make 30-50 dollars from suckers, and walk off with the money. JUST FOR THE RECORDS:

Today I've got the SECOND CONFIRMATION from Buzz Aldrin's office, Buzz Aldrin Enterprises LLC.

Wilshire Blvd, in Los Angeles, and NOVASPACE, and the autographs are AUTHENTIC.

Sorry Mr. Zarelli

I do not want to spend more times on this, and again thank everybody for their input.

Guest

NOVA SPACE is the premier of space signed memorabilia. He rejected it as fake ?

He needs a new job and fast.

Your buyer should have accepted the NOVASPACE paperwork or if anything send it off to PSA . I , quite personally, would not send my graphs to Zarelli.

Guest

If an item sold by NOVA SPACE was turned down by Zarelli then I personally have my doubts about Mr Zarelli. NOVA SPACE is the very best and most respected authority on Space Collectibles .

Someone made a harsh comment about these authenticators being licensed.

In many ways, I think these authenticators should be accountable. I never noticed the little disclaimer notice on the Zarrelli COAs until someone on this forum mentioned it and I'll be Dammed if it ain't true..it clearly states as follows " ZARRELLI AUTHENTICATION , LLC MAKES NO WARRANTEE OR REPRESENTATION , DOES NOT GUARANTEE AUTHENTICITY AND SHALL HAVE NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER FOR LOSS OR DAMAGES ALLEGEDLY SUSTAINED AS A RESULT OF THIS OPINION " .

Guest

To whom it may concern. I am not a "cry baby" and I would never try to hurt anybody.

I am a 68 years old Architect, and Developer and do the collecting for my own pleasure, and not to make money. I think this is very important, because who does it for financial gain, is NOT a Collector. Beside this I met Mr. Caldwell thorough my hobby, ans Mr.

Caldwell and me developed a remote friendship, although we never met in person. I have the out-most respect to Mr. Caldwell, and as i said I would never, or I could never have a greater person. Mr.

Caldwell purchased many items from my collection, like the Moonwalkers 12 signed by all 12 Astronauts who walked on the Moon, among many other items.

I also have absolutely no problem with Mr. Steve Zarelli personally, basically he is trying to make a living. I did talk to him personally on the phone today, and everything seemed to be all right. Mr.

Caldwell took one of my collectors item to Mr. Zarelli to authenticate it, although i turned over all the provinance to him. And I don't have a problem with this either. But when I get an email, saying " Mr.

Zarelli, can not authenticate the item" which was examined by Buzz Aldrin, and Mike Collins with receipts, and paperwork from Novaspace, I do have a problem. Not a huge one because I DO THIS FOR FUN AND NOT TO MAKE MONEY. In reality i never intended to hurt Mr. Zarelli, because as i said he is just trying to make a living.

I never saw his credentials, nor do i care to see it now. Just as a dry fact probably Mr. Zarelli was not even born on July 20th, 1969 when the Firs Moon-landing happened.

It is very similar than i try to authenticate the signature of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

I am signing off for good, i do not want to argue with people, because I DO THIS FOR FUN, AND NOT TO HURT ANYBODY, OR MAKE MONEY. May be a Regulatory Agency should govern these businesses before a more serious problem arise.

So long, and God bless you all.

Tom Torok (dogtomtom)

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You were harmed by his " opinion ". If Zarelli is making a living as an expert then why would he make such an enormous mistake ?

You talked to him on the phone and he basically tried to win you over. He is a salesman and has keen sales skills. A salesman will pretend to see things from your perspective and act like he understands you and his goal is building you up so you feel good about yourself and him at the same time. I have no doubt that Mr Zarelli could talk himself out of a traffic ticket in such a way that the cop would be happy all day long.

Mr Zarelli is a great salesman. Any collector can do average "side by side ' comparisons and be correct a lot of times and this takes no special skill. Selling does take a special skill and Zarelli is a wonderful salesman and he knows what to say to people and what tone of voice to use. Mr Zarelli has the skills to make a fine living but he does not need to sell opinions on autographs to do it.

Mr Zarelli is a well educated individual with better than average people skills and he has made an excellent living for himself outside of autographs. Zarelli might be correct a percentage of the time but what happens when he is wrong ?

A bad autograph is placed into someone's collection while a good autograph is destroyed. I have no problem with zarelli giving another fellow collector an opinion, but in my definition I find it hard to call him an expert and for me I have trouble with his Certificates of Authenticity being sold when there is a contradicting legal statement at the bottom in tiny letters that reduce the authenticity down to a sketchy opinion.

Guest
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You are not a "Cry Baby" by any means. You were done wrong by one of the infamous Zarelli coas which in my humble opinion swing like a pendulum. NOVA SPACE as already said on this thread is the most reliable source for authentic space and it is a shame that zarelli was not experienced and seasoned enough to make an accurate call and instead harmed both you and your buyer.

Gordy Pfd

Sir you hit it right on button

Just hanged up the phone with Zarelli, and he admitted he makes mistakes, and his service is ONLY an opinion, and not Authentication

BTW he was born 8 years after the First Moonlanding, as a matter of fact ALL Landings. It is pretty much like I was to authenticate the signature of Michelangelo, or Mozart. Enough said

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Gordy Pfd

He has no business calling himself an AUTHENTICATOR if he only provides OPINIONS. And he should not be selling Certificates of Authenticity.

I am considering contacting the Attorney General of New York. Autographs are big business and these guys that call themselves Authenticators and cover their *** with legal disclaimers need to find other ways to make a living.

Guest
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This would help the honest collectors, if some regulatory agency like you said the DA's office would look into this

Your comment is worth gold

Guest

For the record, as the owner of some of the rarest space memorabilia (including one of very few items signed by all 12 moonwalkers) I can attest that Steve Zarelli is among the best forensic autograph reviewers in the world, and is widely respected by reputable auction houses and dealers around the world. I started using Zarelli for authentication several years ago at the recommendation of several of the best known space collectors and dealers in the U.S.

and Europe. Steve will not attach his authentication to a signature unless it passes a very rigid authentication process. He rarely renders an opinion that a signature is a forgery, unless it is a precise match with known forgers.

It is a bitter pill when you have purchased a signed photograph or text with no verifiable provenance, and finding that the best authenticators won't sign off on it. And that is the basis for the handful of rants against Zarelli on this site, which I consider nothing less than unfounded slander -- which is why they are all "anonymous."

Guest
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My name is Mark C Caldwell and I live in Herkimer NY . I am employed in the banking industry .

I want to go on the record That I Do NOT Know Steven Zarelli.

I have never posted anything about him. Today I was sent a link by my co-worker. My co-worker apparently knows the Zarelli family.

I want to go on record that I have never posted anything (Positive or negative)about Steven Zarelli or his family. .If someone is using my name then please stop doing so.

If someone,by coincidence,someone has the same name as myself then publish a phone number and address.

my Phone number, for verification is ***********. No prank calls please.

Guest

For the record, as the owner of some of the rarest space memorabilia (including one of very few items signed by all 12 moonwalkers) I can attest that Steve Zarelli is among the best forensic autograph reviewers in the world, and is widely respected by reputable auction houses and dealers around the world. I started using Zarelli for authentication several years ago at the recommendation of several of the best known space collectors and dealers in the U.S.

and Europe. Steve will not attach his authentication to a signature unless it passes a very rigid authentication process. He rarely renders an opinion that a signature is a forgery, unless it is a precise match with known forgers.

It is a bitter pill when you have purchased a signed photograph or text with no verifiable provenance, and finding that the best authenticators won't sign off on it. And that is the basis for the handful of rants against Zarelli on this site, which I consider nothing less than unfounded slander -- which is why they are all "anonymous."

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Guest-850582

Fake Post !

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Guest-850727

Agreed. It is posted because his donated FREE service for the Organization. It can be summarized

" I scratch you back if you scratch mine"

Guest

These "authenticators" tend to be young *** know-it-alls. I am a 38 year collector and that does not give me the right to call myself an authenticator.

If I give you an honest and "free" opinion , I dont call it authentication. These authenticators , ALL OF THEM, verbally used the term AUTHENTICATION and yet the certification they sell all seem to some legal verbage along the bottom that states that the certificate only represents an opinion and there is no legal recourse if the opinion is a mistake.

This is not certification and calling it certification is unethical .

Ned S. Armestaur

Guest

I think you summarized it right

I know where is my appendix is, but when I have a problem, I don't try to operate myself, I go to an accredited doctor, and not an "expert witch doctor" like these clowns. Enough said

Guest

You knowingly brought authentic material to Steve Zarelli for his review. These came from NOVASPACE which , in itself, proves these were signed in person and were 100% authentic .

NOVA SPACE is the most reliable source for space related autographs, period.

That being said, it almost seems like entrapment to give Zarelli something solid and watch him declare it fake . A very bad authenticator , who is popular, can single handedly destroy the hobby of space collecting.

Guest
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I could not agree more with you. There was no entrapment, I sold a book titeled " First on the Moon" to a Gentlemen, and he hired Zarelli to authenticate the book, regardless I gave all provenance to the buyer.

I am not an " expert" but I have been collecting for 24 years, and I can distinguish between

Fake or Real. My space collection is well over 400.000 USD

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Guest-848412

I had books signed at Kennedy Space Center and despite being signed in person, some that I sold on eBay were returned because of a Zarelli Opinion. I refunded and accepted the returns.

I have trouble understanding why someone would drop $ 45 on a book then pay $ 75-100 for an opinion. The opinion giver gets a huge 100% profit on these deals.

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